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From: Mr. Showbiz 5/97
By: John Martin
After eight seasons behind the counter on Wings, the
multitalented preacher's daughter catches her breath--but
not for long
With her day job finally out of the way, Crystal Bernard
has shifted into low gear. The actress-singer-songwriter
has sixty concert dates booked, a new album to record,
songs to write, cars and speedboats to race, and movies
she wants to make. But because she is no longer playing
Helen Chappel Hackett on Wings, which concludes an eight-year
flight on NBC Wednesday night, Bernard now feels as if
she's on vacation. Who can blame her? She's been working
steadily on television for the past fifteen years.
The tireless performer couldn't be more different from
Helen, a laconic figure who has been stuck at Wings'
airport lunch counter for almost a decade. A thirty-two-year-old
preacher's daughter from Texas, Bernard has been onstage
from the time she began singing as a child at gospel
jubilees across the country. At fourteen, she was discovered
by country star Bobbie Gentry ("Ode to Billy Joe"),
who asked her to join her Las Vegas revue. Driven by
her faith in God and an innate ambition, Bernard enrolled
as a theater and international-relations major at Baylor
University when she was sixteen, and began her professional
career in a national Pepsi commercial soon after. A year
later, she left Texas and joined the cast of Happy Days
as Richie and Joanie Cunningham's cousin, K.C. That stint
was followed by a role as a roller-skating hooker in
Garry Marshall's 1982 film, Young Doctors in Love, and
a five-year run as a naive waitress on the series It's
a Living. Just a few months after that show shut down,
Bernard was on the set of Wings.
In her down time, Bernard has been hard at work on her
music career, writing songs recorded by the likes of
Paula Abdul and Lisa Stansfield, and singing with Peter
Cetera on "Forever Tonight," the first single
from his One Clear Voice album. Last fall, she released
a country-music album of her own, titled The Girl Next
Door. Her TV fans will be happy to know that after speaking
with Bernard, Mr. Showbiz writer John Martin quickly
became convinced that this thing she calls "a vacation" won't
last long.
"There were a lot of things we could have done
with Helen that might have been more interesting. But
I like the fact that she was a loser."
You started performing at age three, and it seems as
though you've never stopped. Can you imagine doing anything
else with your life?
Probably the deepest psychological question that I ask
myself is whether I even know anything else. We traveled
all my young years, and all I knew was traveling and
performing. And I couldn't wait to get out of high school
because there was nothing there for me. I was a cheerleader
and I was popular--I didn't date--but I was gone on the
weekends with my father, so I just couldn't wait to get
out of there. When I got on Happy Days I was seventeen,
but I was a young seventeen. Working on a soundstage
every year of my life until now, I think I missed a lot
of stuff other kids do.
Were there times in Hollywood when that lack of worldly
experience caught you unaware?
I think early on, from the ages of seventeen to twenty-five,
there were a lot of things that everyone else had experienced
that I hadn't experienced. Jokes I didn't get because
of my seclusion or my protection. Now, after so many
years of working--the bigger you get, the more responsibilities
you have--I've learned so much about the world.
Can you tell me what you felt when that final episode
of Wings was completed and the series was behind you?
I was crying. Tim [Daly] had come up to me right before
the second-to-the-last scene and put his arms around
me and said, "Sweetheart, this is the last time
we're going to act together." And I cried. Luckily,
I was supposed to cry in the scene. You know, I had regrets
that I didn't enjoy it more every single day. We had
a party the next night and I can't tell you how much
I wanted to talk to every person in the room and tell
them what they meant to me, knowing I probably wouldn't
see them again.
In the Wings series finale, Helen has a chance to escape
from behind the lunch counter. Was there ever a time
when you hoped the producers and writers might give Helen
a different way to go?
There were a lot of things we could have done with Helen
that I thought might have been more interesting. But
succeeding was never one of my suggestions. I like the
fact that she was a loser. And I say that in the kindest
way. She tried so hard in everything she did, and it
failed on her, and it was funny. I liked her not being
the homecoming queen, because I think everyone could
identify with that.
The fundamental premise of Wings seems to be that in
each of us there is some of the uptight, overpolite Joe
Hackett (Daly) and some of the wild, irresponsible Brian
Hackett (Steven Weber). Tell me about the Joe part of
you and the Brian part of you.
The organization of Joe and wanting to be a good student
and do everything right is extremely prevalent in my
life. I can't say no. I think that's why I work so much.
And I'm like Brian in that I race cars and I love games.
I could go play video games forever. And I'm such a kid
when I don't have to be responsible.
Do you think this dual personality stems from being
raised as a preacher's daughter?
Oh, no doubt. I've never sought immoral, wild things.
But games have always been so fun. And going out and
racing go-carts. That was the one time my mind would
stop thinking about responsibilities. All those years
in church we were taught to be responsible for other
people. We'd go to old folks homes. I've seen a lot of
people die--I've sat on their beds when no one was there,
no family members. So, playing games makes me not think
about the things I'm supposed to do.
I read in Music City News that you've only had three
boyfriends in your life. Did they get that right?
Yeah, I think so. It's not a sad thing. I think my expectations
are high. I'm real happy. I've got a great life, I'm
extremely fulfilled. I have a family that loves me so
much they'd die for me. And I for them. I have guy friends
who would do anything for me. I'm a happy girl. So, to
get in a relationship where someone wants to change you
so that it would be better for them--become less independent
or take the very thing that makes me happy--to me that's
not love. To get in a relationship just because I wanted
a man? I'd just rather wait.
Tell me something about your father.
This is the absolute truth: he is the gentlest man I've
ever known and it's going to be real hard for me to find
a man who lives up to my father. He loves the truth.
He is so wise. And if I get an eighth of his qualities
in my lifetime, you should marry me.
Your references to what you're looking for in a man,
and the comparison to your father is the stuff people
spend time on the couch trying to work out.
I'm not waiting for man like my father. It just happens
that all the things he values, I value. So, when I say
something about finding someone like my father I'm talking
about the heart. I had a family that loved me. That's
why I haven't fallen in love. I've been so loved, that
I know what unconditional love is.
You played someone with an eating disorder in the TV
movie Dying To Be Perfect, and weight was an issue in
Helen's past. How have you dealt with Hollywood equating
being thin with being sexy?
I've never had a weight problem. I go up five pounds
and down five pounds without really any different behavior.
I've never had a psychological problem about needing
to be skinny or having that "look." I've always
liked a healthy look. I've always been attracted to matters
of the heart rather than matters of looks. I've never
been attracted to guys who are beautiful. Never have.
I understand the weight issue so well, because I understand
personal addiction and abuse. My mother was obese all
our lives. I can say that now. I never used to say it,
because she was obese. But four or five years ago, she
dropped about 100 pounds. And she is beautiful. And happy.
But I understand what it does to people when they think
of what other people think of them. You can get lost
in your own nightmare. I have a tenderness in my heart
about any kind of addiction. Growing up, we lived in
a drug rehab center for a year almost. I saw people who
were drug addicts who gave it everything they had to
stop, but couldn't.
You had a childhood where the expression 'We've been
blessed' wasn't just a clich--you saw the other side
regularly.
I felt I was blessed. I had a family that loved me.
A lot of people with problems don't have that kind of
love. That's why I haven't fallen in love. I've been
so loved, that I know what unconditional love is. So
the little petty kind of love, the in-love we write books
about, is not the root of the love I've seen in my life.
Do you want to do another series soon, or are you reluctant
to make that commitment again?
I'm reluctant. I've had a few meetings. I've seen things
that call for "a Crystal Bernard-type" and
that's when you know you've made it. [Laughs.] I've been
doing this for thirteen years now, and I think it's so
important to have enthusiasm so that you can put your
heart and soul into a project. Maybe next year. Right
now I'd like to do film and do my tours and write music
and do more records. I really would like to do a film.
What comedies do you watch on TV?
I'm not a big fan. I still think Mad About You is good
and I certainly think Seinfeld is innovatively funny.
You know, when you're in comedy very few things make
you laugh. I think Sinbad is hilarious and he's clean
for families and I have a lot of respect for him. It's
hard to be funny and not be dirty.
I have a feeling you never gave much thought to losing
your Texas accent to further your career.
I did early on. Everyone was saying, "God, you've
got to lose that accent." So I took classes. I feel
I can read without it or act without it. But everyone
always wants it for the parts I do. They think it adds
to the character.
Do you ever feel any desire to be on one of what the
critics call a smart, hip show like Seinfeld or Friends?
Never at all. Going out on these concert tours and seeing
ten thousand people and signing autographs and getting
feedback, I've come to the conclusion that all of us
Hollywood snobs out here look for the coolest, most innovative,
the newest, and we forget what America wants. America
wants to be entertained. I think comedy is at its best
when it comes from an intelligent point of view, and
it comes out of reality. I'm talking about a show with
integrity and characters that people love. People loved
Joe and Helen and Brian and Lowell. |